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Ubuntu 12.04.1 misbehaviour

Postby catgate » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:59 pm

My machine has started being silly.
I think it started after a big update a couple of weeks ago. This was followed by another big one a few days later, (which I hoped was to correct something in the earlier one). There was yet another smaller one today.
Unfortunately there does not appear to be a pattern to its silliness.
The most frequent occurrence is for a message to pop up saying in effect that an error has occurred "but we do not know what it is."
Another oddity is the way that sometimes, if one is printing two copies of a document , the first page will pop out and then, as though it has finished printing, all action will stop. A short time elapses (may be half a minute or so), and then it will print the second page.

The friend that I mentioned with the printer problem ( end of last month) is having what appears to be the same problem and I am wondering if it is some sort of anti Luddite addition/update added for we who are running GNOME Classic Session.

Computer janitor found and cleared a couple of files from my friend's machine but nothing has been found on mine.

Any thoughts and suggestions will be thankfully welcomed
Oh, sod it.
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Postby catgate » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:13 am

Perhaps I should have mentioned my 12.04.1 was reached via Update..Upgrade..add Classic Session. My friends was a new built machine with new 12.04.1 OS from new live disc, installed from disc. with update running, then add Classic Session.
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Postby catgate » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:47 pm

Further to my above ramblings I have come across references on the 'net to some sort of problem with Apport which result in the same sort of behaviour that I am getting.
The simple cure given was to simply turn it off.
Now, as a retired scientist, this just cuts across all my principles but on the other hand, as a lazy old git, it seems most appealing.
What does the team think???
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Postby Rhakios » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:55 pm

As Apport is for bug reporting, switching it off won't actually do you any direct harm. Frankly, when exiting a program triggers apport for the nth time and it looks like there is no progress in fixing the original bug, I just decline it's offer to report and move on.
As this is a recurring problem which hasn't been fixed, I'd just switch the bloomin' thing off.
I too am heading in the direction of lazy old gittishness.
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Postby catgate » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:21 pm

Thanks for your comments Rhakios.
One day last weekendish I decided to let it Apport send a report and was surprised just how long it took sending it.
My internet connection is via Solwise's mains HomePlugs and so I can tell by the flashing LEDs h when it is active. It was flashing for at least twenty minutes.
Is it possible that it could take such a long time to send a report or does it set up some sort of invesigative process?....or is there some other gobblethripe at work?
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Postby Rhakios » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:12 pm

When I've let apport run, it's not usually taken that long, it takes longer to gather the data than send it. Perhaps this is because for me the problem has been with a particular application, while for you the problem is with apport itself.
Under normal circumstances, apport shows a preview of the output it is going to send, and that's only a moderate amount of data, certainly not enough to clog up outbound broadband.
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Postby catgate » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:07 am

That is interesting, Rhakios, because when ever Apport has "found a problem" it has never displayed a preview of its report.
It is also interesting that in among todays updates there was one for Apport.
Being mired in deep ignorance of these things I have no idea of what the update was intended to do.
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Postby Rhakios » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:15 pm

catgate wrote:That is interesting, Rhakios, because when ever Apport has "found a problem" it has never displayed a preview of its report.


I seem to recall that it's an option when the thing first rears its ugly head.

It is also interesting that in among todays updates there was one for Apport.
Being mired in deep ignorance of these things I have no idea of what the update was intended to do.


I noticed that too. Looking at the changelog, it seems the latest fix is simply to redirect bug reports to a different place.
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Postby nelz » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:17 pm

/dev/null ? :twisted:
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Postby catgate » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:46 pm

Well it is all very confusing to me. ( that's not difficult, it must be admitted)

nelz's /dev/null resulted in :-

Could not display "/dev/null "
There is no application installed for character device files.
Do you want to search for an application to open this file?
yes/no
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Postby Rhakios » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:13 pm

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rhakios@pythia:~$ ls -l /dev/null
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Apr 19 19:44 /dev/null


Everyone needs a /dev/null!

However, catgate, you ought to realise that nelz intends humour.
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Postby catgate » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:17 am

Ah!! I see. Thank you Rhakios.
But.... I don't really.
I wish I knew enough about the nuts and bolts of linux to understand it better, and appreciate such jests.
I would much appreciate an explation, however basic, kind sir.
It may shine a light in a corner for me.
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Postby nelz » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:16 am

I was responding to Rhakios's comment about Apport redirecting bug reports to a different place. /dev/null is the Linux equivalent of a bottomless hole, it's where you send stuff you don't want to see, try

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ls >/dev/null
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Postby catgate » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:58 pm

Aah!!
Thanks, nelz.
Would it be effective if I type the names of many of our politician into it?
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Postby towy71 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:28 pm

catgate wrote:Aah!!
Thanks, nelz.
Would it be effective if I type the names of many of our politician into it?
I wish :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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